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cozzycoz
#1 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 8:18:26 PM Quote
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HI just need to get this off my chest!

I work as a teaching assistant in a primary school, I have R.A which the head teacher spoke to the teachers about as need to use the only disabled parking bay, needles to say the other staff were not told about my R.A so they mostly knew I was off work with something!

Im not looking for sympathy just understanding!! At school we have a young teacher 31yrs who has been off with a sore hip and when she is in uses a stick (as do I on bad days) now I was under the impression she had jouvinal R.A but had been ok for quite a while, I was glad of someone else with some understanding, but seems that her hip is wearing away and is just having pain killers ! she dont seem too keen to talk about things with me so not really sure!!

Now the point to my aggrievence is not her, but other staff that say to me poor thing she is on lots of painkillers etc..( hello me too) and " you must understand her pain" (which I do) but it's only her hip (not belittling her pain) but mine is all my joints!!

Today I was in the que to make tea at break time with stick in one hand cup in other (wearing wrist braces) as was the teacher(Not with wrist brace), when another T.A tells her to "sit down I'll bring yr drink over" I was stood right next to her!!!! and she watched me struggle, inside I just laughed to myself not sure if it was just cos im a mere T.A or just thoughfullness, the T.A in mention use to be a nurse! I feel like they are scared of me...... dont know how to deal with this! I have found that if they ask I will explain, and I do have support of another Teacher who wants to help but is not sure how too.

I am lacking the confidence to be able to round everyone up to explain about R.A , I have stuck R.A guys 60 sec guide in staff room but dont think they have seen it!!

Thanks for listening/reading corinne xx


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#2 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 9:47:29 PM Quote
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Hi Corrine, someone else in need of a hug!
This is awful for you and it's all due to people not understanding what RA is.
Could you write a letter, or better still copy the description of RA that Jenni has recently posted, print out copies and send one to each member of staff?
You could say at the beginning that you would have liked to get them all together and explain what RA is but you lack the confidence.
Hopefully they will all read it and understand a bit better and can ask you anything they don't understand.
I hope you can work something out to get the respect you deserve at work.

Love, Doreen xx
















MaryLewis
#3 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2010 9:57:48 PM Quote
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Hi
that is a good idea Doreen has given to you
the thing is every-one has the idea RA is just the same as OA I have tried to tell people but if they dont see it then there is nothing wrong with you
hope you have a bit of luck with this
take care
Mary L
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 12:51:01 AM Quote
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Hi Corinne,

I so feel for you and can see exactly why you're feeling so disheartened.

Perhaps you should ask them to read the leaflets or even suggest a few of them have a chat with you about it.

Much love and prayers,

Amanda

white horse
#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:34:57 AM Quote
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Hi Corinne
I'm a Teaching Assistant too and the job is tiring enough as it is without the RA. I've just been diagnosed and have been off work for 5 weeks. Our deputy head has been off having a hip replacement. I know whatyou mean when you feel that they get the attention and you don't. Before he went off sick it used to be a case of 'poor man' 'what he has to endure'. I,personally didn't mind but I was like you, walking around with a stick and I was getting more and more jobs piled on me from the young male teacher who I work with.

I have to say that the year 5 children that I work with have been amazing. Getting things out of cupboards 'cos I couln't bend. Undoing PVA bottles 'cos my fingers were too sore. they are little treasures.

At our school though, the teachers and TAs are equal. There's not one teacher that calls us 'just' a TA. They treat us all the same. YOU are not JUST a TA. I expect you are truly valued in your school and they certainly wouldn't be able to cope without you. They probably don't want to upset you by asking questions about your RA. Maybe they realise that you don't want to draw attention to yourself so they don't broach the subject. When I go back I'm dreading the 'how are you?' from everyone 'cos I don't like being the centre of attention but I'll go with th flow.

It will be difficult for you as I'm finding out myself but I'm sure the teacher who you can talk to will be able to help. I hope coming on here gives you the help you need too.

Good luck and let me know how it goes
take care
Chris
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:25:07 AM Quote
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Hi Corinne,
Doreens idea sounds really good especially with brief intro at the top, hope you find something that works for you, it is hard when things are "hidden" and many of us dont like to draw attention, hope things work out soon,
Chris ~ your little treasures sound delightful, i used to work in a school years ago and remember some little treasures there too! xx
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:39:14 AM Quote
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other TA may have been sucking up, or may have had a chat earlier with teacher and know something you don't know about how her day is going. that's not worth bothering about so much, but if you feel like you are treated differently loads, i'd say giving a bit of informatoin, opening up a bit more might help others understand? maybe the other teacher has done that already?

i think the wish to help is often there very strongly, but especially in this country we don't like to intrude help a lot of the time nowadays, as we don't want to upset, to seem to be saying 'you can't do that can you?'

so sorry you are worrying about this Corinne, i hope you feel happier in work soon, practice on us, rehearse what you want to say, print for them if you decide to share more? best wishes, xfx
white horse
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 2:05:17 PM Quote
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lizziemouse wrote:
Hi Corinne,
Doreens idea sounds really good especially with brief intro at the top, hope you find something that works for you, it is hard when things are "hidden" and many of us dont like to draw attention, hope things work out soon,
Chris ~ your little treasures sound delightful, i used to work in a school years ago and remember some little treasures there too! xx



Yeah people think that all children misbehave and are rude to their elders but these children are fab. The school is a in a deprived area and most of them have 'issues' but they look after me. They give me respect because I do the same with them.

I can't wait to get back to work and see them because I know they miss me (Had a class email) even if only to help them with their work.


Corinne

I hope you get the answers and help you need.
Damned76
#9 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 4:39:14 PM Quote
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Hi Corinne - sorry to hear you are made to feel like this. I think Doreen's idea is really good. You don't have to make a big deal of it but give them some stuff to read and let them think about it. Take care.

Julie
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:00:17 PM Quote
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Hi

This isnt fair at all! I am a primary teacher by profession ( i had to stop about 4 yrs ago now) and I had a great amount of respect for my TAs. I was younger than most of them (only 30yrs then.)

I had a great TA with a chronic back problem and got her and me a superb ergonomic chair so she could work with a group and sit low down at the carpet time etc.

Displays were always hard going so I used to get all the mounting etc done and get someone in to help put them up.

it was the hours that killed in the end- the days were so long (7.30-6) then picking up my children feeding them, bathing them and getting them to bed then marking and getting last bits together for the following day.

anyway!

I loved the job. Fantastic time of my life that!

I printed off the spoon theory for all the pigeon holes. the spoon theory and now there is the NRAS booklet for employers.

I would make an appt with your union person and ask if they will support you in having a meeting with the head about making some reasonable ajustments in school and explaining to staff member X in a supportive way.

Love

Jenni xx

PS I still do bits for school- I am devising some training for my local schools on helping traumatised children- there is a great bk you might like called "inside Im hurting" by Louise Bomber about the fantastic difference TAs can make in school to the most vulnerable hurting children- it is short and BRILLIANT!
how to be a velvet bulldoser
jeanb
#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2010 7:15:27 PM Quote
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Hi Corrine

Your post about fab kids in a deprived area really struck home with me.

My daughter is Head of Humanities in a large secondary school in one of the most deprived areas of the North West and absolutely adores the kids who seem to feel the same about her! She says respect is earned!

Love Jeanxxxx
Maria_R
#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:59:11 PM Quote
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Hi Corrinne

First- as a teacher myself, I'd like to say how much I respect and appreciate our TA's. In fact- I have two who work closely with me and they are so supportive and understanding of my RA


I know how you feel though about the responses you get. Many of my colleagues know about my RA even if they don't always understand. Most of them are supportive, but there's the few who see me struggling with a stick and wearing wrist supports yet don't even hold a door open for me! The worst one is a dept colleague . When she joined my dept, I explained it all to her as she was going to be working closely with me as I felt that there were some practical things that she needed to know about, and the fatigue problems, so she didn't think I was skiving. Unfortunately she has shown no consideration at all. We share a room and she's one of those people who never tidies up after herself. I end up having to lug tables and chairs around, put equpiment away etc. I did explain nicely that I can't do these things and she's totally ignored me. When i raised it again, all i got was 'Tell the pupils to do it' ! I don' expect her to understand or sympathise- just a bit of consideration towards a fellow human being. Added to this, she's very aggressive in her manner and seems to take opportunities to undermine me. I get the impression she does it deliberately for some perverse reason.

It does upset me at times. I was brought up to show consideration to others and I get dismayed at human nature sometimes. Ah well- that's life!
I try not to let it bother me. Not always easy though.

The kids are superb- when i fell over in a lesson once I was touched by the help they gave me. We still laugh about me lying on my back like an upturned tortoise and the sight of the deputy head trying to help me up- no mean feat wth my 12+ stone!! Tht's one of the joys of working in a school- if I'm under the weather I can count on the kids to keep my spirits up. And like Chris, they often help out with practical things.

I think it is worth trying to make more people aware of your RA. Maybe just a quiet word with indviduals rather than a big declaration?

Take care- let us know how you get on

love

maria x


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#13 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:53:46 AM Quote
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corinne

i totally sympathise with you, regarding work, my personell manager has arthritis in her hip, and is having surgery end of this month, i have had loads of problems at work, which has lead me to be of work now for the last 2 weeks, she says comments like (I HAVE ARTHRITIS, SO WHY ISNT SHE IN WORK I AM!!!!) it is total ignorance towards R A, the union have took booklets to her to read but she just says i havnt got time to read thoose ive got a lot on my mind, she needs to realise that hers can be fixed with surgery, anyway ive decieded not to let them get me down anymore, but i wont go back until there is a better understanding of what R A is ,

sending all my love donna ThumpUp
cozzycoz
#14 Posted : Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:37:51 PM Quote
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Hi Everyone,
Im touched with all the support and advice you have given me, I will look into all the ideas too.

I think some of the problem is we dont have T.A meetings anymore, we used to have them with the senco ( speciel educational needs coordinator) at least once a mth, but since she left we only have a part time senco now and she has alot to do! The thing is I use to be the bubbly, joker and have good relationships with all the staff, but having been off for 6mths I did find it hard coming back (only do mornings at mo im on gradual return to work) also been a few staff changes! the school is not a big one about 300 pupils, I work with a spiecal needs child who iv been with for 6yrs now! also help with ICT !

As with you Maria. I do think that the teacher appeciate T.A's and Iv been told off for saying "just a T.A " in the past, and we do more than just wash paint pots now! (also I have a diploma in pre-school practise :) which im proud of.

It,s just frustrating now I feel different, but want to be the same,want undertanding,but not to be treated diffently,but want to be treated equally!!! I know it's a big list and how can everyone else know ?? unless you tell them "right"

I will find my way, eventually! big changes for everyone, I found out recently too that last year when I was first diag, my daughter was taunted at school and told she was lying about Me being disabled!! how sad I was for her, I only found out as another mum told me! so I asked Megan (my 13yr daughter) she said she talked to a teacher about it at the time and it was sorted, so she was trying to spare my feelings, I hadn't given it any thought as this was never an issue for me (my mum has R.A since I was a baby) but I didn't see mum as disabled! she was just Mum!! But I had always been well untill last yr so not something I expected to happen!! just go's to show we think we have all angles covered just to find new one's!

Thanks again for all yr help will let you know which way I go, after half term :)

love corinne xxx
white horse
#15 Posted : Friday, February 12, 2010 9:47:26 AM Quote
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jeanb wrote:
Hi Corrine

Your post about fab kids in a deprived area really struck home with me.

My daughter is Head of Humanities in a large secondary school in one of the most deprived areas of the North West and absolutely adores the kids who seem to feel the same about her! She says respect is earned!

Love Jeanxxxx


Hi jean it was me who said about the 'fab' kids. lol

It's great that they can put their trust in you and know that you'll support them. You must be so poud of your daughter.
jeanb
#16 Posted : Friday, February 12, 2010 11:20:33 AM Quote
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Blushing SO sorry - I'm very good at getting things mixed up and yes, I am proud of her. She hates all the admin side of teaching but just loves being with the kids and teaching.
xxxx
white horse
#17 Posted : Friday, February 12, 2010 1:07:29 PM Quote
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No worries Jean. I make the same mistakes time and time again. lol

Yeah the paperwork for teachers is beyond a joke now and there has to be a form for everything. an assessment for everything and meetings to discuss when to have the next meeting etc.,

They all do more than their fair share at our school and I guess, it's the same at your daughter's. Even us TAs take work home. I have to plan lesons that I teach, mark work and break times go by unnoticed some days. Hey Ho!!! Such is life and there are people far worse off.

Take care
Chris
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